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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on November 18

• ... that artist Adam Neate left 1,000 prints, valued at £1 million, on London streets for anyone to pick up and keep? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Ty 09:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• On hold. Article is currently at WP:AFD, but by the looks of it so far, it is most likely to be kept. It should be fine in several days. – RyanCross (talk) 09:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that The Blood of Jesus (1941) was the first race film added to the U.S. National Film Registry? (5x expansion, self-nom). Ecoleetage (talk) 04:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. Ref #3 and expansion checks out. – RyanCross (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that according to Islamic tradition, Reuben is buried in the former Arab village of Nabi Rubin (pictured), where up to 30,000 Muslims used to make pilgrimage annually before its capture by Israel in 1948? (self-nom) --Al Ameer son (talk) 05:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• The article says Israelis won't let Arabs live there permanently, and Israelis turned a Muslim shrine into a Jewish shrine. Please forgive my unfamiliarity with Mideast politics, but neither the hook nor the article answers this question: Do the Israelis forbid Muslims from making their pilgrimage anyway? Art LaPella (talk) 06:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that Dr. Worthy Streator never once visited the city of Streator, Illinois, which was named in his honor after the town and its coal mine were built by his company in 1866? --Ljmajer (talk) 08:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 17

• ... that the 23 home runs hit by Johnny Rizzo in 1938 set a Pittsburgh Pirates team record that stood until 2004, and his nine RBI in a 1939 game set a single game team record that still stands today? -- fivefold expasnion, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 03:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. Nice job. Very interesting to read since I'm a baseball fan. :) – RyanCross (talk) 04:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Crawley's 94 listed buildings include The Beehive (pictured)—a circular Art Deco building that was the world's first integrated airport terminal? ~ Double self-nom of two new articles. Sorry about the blah photo: it's impossible to photograph low, wide buildings successfully. List has >1,500 bytes prose in first two paras. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after first deciding not to air the Roseanne episode "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" because it included Mariel Hemingway kissing Roseanne Barr, ABC actively promoted it as "the lesbian kiss episode"? - new article moved to articlespace today, self-nom. Otto4711 (talk) 23:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 03:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Natsume Sōseki's 1905 novel Kairo-kō is the earliest, and only major, prose treatment of the Arthurian legend in the Japanese language? -- new article, self nom by Cúchullain ^t/c 21:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that research by physician I. Bernard Weinstein investigated the cancer-causing potential of such foods as barbecued and cured meat? -- new article, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that assassinated Israeli mobster Yaakov Alperon was tied to a protection racket in which restaurant owners paid by allowing the gangsters to collect empty returnable bottles from their businesses? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 17:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that American economist Franklin M. Fisher, who received the John Bates Clark Medal in 1973, has taught economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology since 1960? new article by AdjustShift (talk) 15:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

  ALT 1 ... that Franklin M. Fisher, who was the chief economic witness for IBM in its antitrust confrontation with the United States Department of Justice, also served a similar role on behalf of the Department of Justice in the case of United States v. Microsoft? AdjustShift (talk) 16:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Walter Scott Lenox made the first set of American made china dishware (replica pictured) for the White House? new article, self nominated by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Patrick David Wall published his first two papers at the age of 21 while still an undergraduate? New article, self-nom, easily past the word count. Ironholds (talk) 06:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Pamela Munizzi succeeded John P. Daley, the son of former Chicago Mayor Richard J., brother of current Mayor Richard M., in office in both the Illinois House of Representatives and the Illinois Senate?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt hook)... that when John P. Daley, the son of former Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley, got married the Chicago Tribune April 24, 1975, headline read: "Daley's son to wed hood's daughter"?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Verified. Hook #1 is more interesting, in my opinion. – RyanCross (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Tropical Storm Becky (1970) produced heavy rainfall in Tallahassee, Florida, that caused flood-related losses to 104 families? –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 03:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 02:54, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Bordeaux wine estate Château d'Angludet was considered a fourth growth, until death and decline led to its omission from the Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855? -- new article self-nom by MURGH ^disc. 02:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• I'm concerned that there is no explanation in the article as to what a "fourth growth" is. Otto4711 (talk) 01:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• I understand, the explanation only comes with the 1855 link. Otherwise, first growth (or cru) don't feel appropriate to insert. MURGH ^disc. 01:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC) An attempt at an explanation has been inserted. MURGH ^disc. 12:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Washington State Route 504 was damaged when Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980 and had to be rebuilt on higher ground? expanded five-fold, self-nom by ~~ ComputerGuy 01:00, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• I realize the mountain can't be rebuilt on higher ground, but I prefer something like "... and the road had to be rebuilt ... " Art LaPella (talk) 04:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
• Verified. Very interesting article, and good job on the expansion. – RyanCross (talk) 05:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 1978 Orson Welles-directed documentary Filming Othello has never been theatrically released or presented on home video? (5x expansion, self-nom). Ecoleetage (talk) 01:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 04:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Harald N. S. Wergeland, Lieutenant General and Norwegian Minister of the Army, was raised by his uncle Nicolai Wergeland and enrolled at the Norwegian Military Academy at the age of twelve? -- self-nom by Punkmorten (talk) 14:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Date, length, hook and reference verified. Oceanh (talk) 20:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC).

• ... that Ohaveth Sholum Congregation, Seattle's first Jewish congregation, fell four days short of having the first synagogue in Washington? - (new, self-nom) Jmabel | Talk 21:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 16

• ... that the white horse in mythology while associated with the sun chariot, warrior-heroes, fertility or an end-of-time saviour, sometimes has seven heads or speaks? — nom new article by WikiJedits (talk) ... Julia Rossi (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Utah roundmouth snail (Valvata utahensis) is extirpated from Utah? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Snek01 (talk) 00:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 1902 discovery of gold in Interior Alaska by Italian immigrant Felix Pedro marked the start of the Fairbanks Gold Rush?

(Self-nom, power hunger, oh noes. Seriously I've never done this before.) — CharlotteWebb 23:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Verified. You've got the hang of it! – RyanCross (talk) 03:07, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• I've added my own nomination to this hook of Fairbanks Gold Rush. Could someone else review that one? – RyanCross (talk) 04:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Done deal, Ryan! Ecoleetage (talk) 04:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the M115 anti-crop bomb was known as the feather bomb because it dropped feathers laced with fungal spores to spread wheat stem rust? Self-nom: --IvoShandor (talk) 18:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the fortifications of Kotor represent one of the best examples of defensive Venetian military architecture? new, self-nom - Ekem (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Rolland Todd, Stu Inman, Jack McCloskey, and Kevin Pritchard have spent their entire National Basketball Association coaching careers with the Portland Trail Blazers? new article, self-nom -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24_[c] 04:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Note: article List of Portland Trail Blazers head coaches, the nominator forgot to bold; the piping's a little tricky so I haven't tried myself. —97198 (talk) 06:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Second half of that hook is really overlinked. Try to come up with a new wording that doesn't require you to put three linked expressions together. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• I really don't know how to do that... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24_[c] 08:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that four Portland Trail Blazers head coaches have spent their entire National Basketball Association coaching careers with the Trail Blazers? (Try this one on for size.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks or doing an alternate. I just linked Trail Blazers just so you know. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24_[c] 00:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Edward Sheehan's quotations from Richard Nixon in his 1976 book The Arabs, Israelis and Kissinger led to a State Department search for the source of the leaks? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that for his work with Drum, director Zola Maseko received the top prize at FESPACO, the Golden Stallion of Yennenga? Expansion by ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 02:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Verified. Nice article, too. Ecoleetage (talk) 05:07, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that even though the Flettner rotor bomblet (pictured) was never mass-produced, William C. Patrick III called it "one of the better devices for disseminating microorganisms"? Self nom, should just make it in over 1,500 characters, pretty obscure topic though.: --IvoShandor (talk) 01:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • We love obscure topics. Any weapon that was seriously considered (as in, it had a development contract) by the US or other major military power is notable enough, in my view. I've commented on an issue with the article itself on the talk. ++Lar: t/c 11:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that though Wired magazine called the video game Traxion "the best thing they had on the show floor" at E3 2006, publisher Lucas Arts canceled the game in early 2007? article expanded 5x, self nom. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 01:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: I hesitate nominating this article because it is still up for deletion, but I am confident (overly confident, perhaps) that the nom will fail. In any case, I wouldn't expect this to be approved at least until the AfD is finished. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 01:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the park Ravnedalen (pictured) in Kristiansand was constructed by Colonel Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland and his soldiers? --(new, self-nom). Oceanh (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC).

• ... that Major League Baseball manager John McGraw had 2583 wins as the New York Giants' manager? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 23:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Since the team was in New York when managed by McGraw, shouldn't this say "as the New York Giants' manager"?Cbl62 (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Good point. I changed the hook accordingly. Rlendog (talk) 18:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Weraroa, a genus of pouch fungi, may represent an intermediate evolutionary stage between underground and above-ground fungi? new article, self-nom by Sasata (talk) 22:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date verified. Offline refs accepted in good faith. ONe concern though -- the term "pouch fungi" does not appear in the article and should be removed from the hook unless a reference with in-line cite is added to the article. The hook works fine without saying "pouch fungi" anyway.Cbl62 (talk) 00:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that reopening of the line to Leven in Fife, Scotland, the Levenmouth rail link, is being considered a priority by Fife Council and SESTRANS? Expansion by Simply south (talk), started by D-Notice.

I'm not sure if this is interesting enough and this project is still in the planning stages. Simply south (talk) 22:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

It interests me! I have done a copyedit. Note that the article title and first paragraph show different names for the link; this needs to be checked. An alternative hook, based on the fact that I can't think of any freight services in the UK dedicated to carrying whisky, might be something like this (different wording welcome)...

(ALT) *... that the proposed Levenmouth rail link in Fife, Scotland, could be used by whisky-carrying freight trains as well as by passengers? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks better and thanks for that. I've sorted the start. Simply south (talk) 14:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a small note in that the freight coming to Cameron Bridge to one site will be at a distillery so maybe that should be changed to distillery traffic? Simply south (talk) 17:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

(ALT) *... that the proposed Levenmouth rail link in Fife, Scotland, could be used by distillery freight trains as well as by passengers?

• ... that John B. Curtis (pictured) made the first commercially available chewing gum? new article, self nom by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date and hook confirmed. Nice article and hook. My only comment is that I would probably substitute "made" or "developed" instead of "invented", as that is more clearly supported by the sources. Cbl62 (talk) 22:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed! Done. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 22:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that HMS Mahratta delivered a bathtub to Murmansk during World War II? New article created and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 21:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date and hook confirmed. However, I propose a tweak to the hook below that may be more interesting. Cbl62 (talk) 00:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• alt ... that the M class destroyer HMS Mahratta delivered a bathtub to Murmansk for use by an admiral during World War II?

• ... that Tropical Storm Vongfong was upgraded to a severe tropical storm by the Japan Meteorological Agency in post-storm analysis?--Elena85 ^{1959 Pacific Hurricane Season} 20:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• No qualifying article. Art LaPella (talk) 20:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
• it is tropical storm vongfong (2008) --Elena85 ^{1959 Pacific Hurricane Season} 22:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• I put Tropical Storm Vongfong in bold print to make it the article, but it doesn't qualify. The #Instructions specify "Proposed hooks should ... be no more than five days old (former redirects, stubs, or other short articles whose main body text has been expanded fivefold or more within the last five days are acceptable)." This article is much older than five days, and its recent expansion is from a main body text (not references etc.) of 1274 characters to 2869 characters. There is still time for expansion within the five day limit, but the main body text would need to be over twice as long as it is now. Art LaPella (talk) 00:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Art is right. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that former Key West, Florida, mayor Captain Tony Tarracino was a subject of the 1980 film Cuba Crossing about a plot to kill Fidel Castro and the 1985 Jimmy Buffett song "Last Mango in Paris"? -- new article self-nom by — AjaxSmack 18:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
  • This hook is ambiguous: was Cuba Crossing about a) a plot to kill Castro, and b) the song? Or, rather, was the mayor the subject of a) the film, and b) the song? At the very least, we need a comma in there. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the success of Gay Weddings as counterprogramming to Super Bowl XXXVII led television network Bravo to develop additional LGBT-interest programming, including Queer Eye and Boy Meets Boy? - self-nom, new article, moved to article space today. Book reference available through Google book search. Otto4711 (talk) 14:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

This article was created on Nov. 9, not Nov. 16. Cbl62 (talk) 00:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC) Sorry, I didn't notice that had been moved from a sandbox.Cbl62 (talk) 00:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Melbourne Jazz Co-operative runs three jazz concerts a week and is the most active jazz presenter organisation in Australia? --Takver (talk) 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
  • A teeny bit short (I have it at 1451)...just one or two sentences will be enough to get it over 1500. Leave a message here once you've got it; welcome to DYK! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I have added a few more paragraphs to the article, all referenced historical detail, which should push it over the 1500 word mark well and truly. Thanks --Takver (talk) 10:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Well over 1500 chars now. Length, date & ref verified. Chamal ^talk 11:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that John H. Kelly (pictured) was the youngest Confederate Brigadier General at the time of his appointment at 23, and one of the youngest generals to die during the American Civil War at 24? New Article, Self Nom, Duke R. Oliver I ^{His Duchy} 03:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date verified. Offline refs accepted in good faith. Chamal ^talk 03:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Static Major featured in Lil Wayne's 2008 hit single "Lollipop" but died before the song was released in Tha Carter III? Five-fold expansion. – RyanCross (talk) 11:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

length, date and hook verified. PeterSymonds (talk) 11:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Norwegian Minister of Defence Rolf Jacobsen did not have a career background in the military, but rather as a jurist? -- should be clear from the text and source. Self-nom by expander Punkmorten (talk) 11:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the recorded history of the Briolette of India dates back to the 12th century, making it possibly the world's oldest diamond on record? -- new short article by Chamal N (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 12:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Whoah!! Hold it! I'm not done yet, it's still not at 1500 chars. I have to expand a bit more. Chamal ^talk 12:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Keep typing, pal. I know you'll get to 1500+ very soon. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 19:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that 99% of Japanese municipalities collect and recycle steel cans despite not being required by law, giving the country one of the world's highest recycling rates for these cans? -- new article by R0pe-196 (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that Don Bradman, generally regarded as the batsman in cricket history, made a duck in his final Test innings? self nom YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model!) 07:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 15

• ... that in 1899, Chinese immigration to Puerto Rico was prohibited by the United States Chinese Exclusion Act? - Self nom Tony the Marine (talk) 16:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Note - This article is practically "new". It was a "stub" and I re-wrote the whole thing on 11-15-08. Tony the Marine (talk) 16:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Very good article. Ecoleetage (talk) 05:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after serving as a Union general during the American Civil War, James Sanks Brisbin served in the Northwestern United States as an officer in several cavalry regiments? (new article by User:AdjustShift, expanded by User:Kresock) AdjustShift (talk) 16:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a local mall sparked controversy when its holiday fireworks display sent local residents running outside in alarm during the Sayre Fire? new article, self nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs)

• alt 1 ... that the Sayre Fire resulted in the worst loss of homes due to fire in the history of Los Angeles, surpassing the loss of 484 residences in the 1961 Bel Air fire? Cbl62 (talk) 04:40, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• alt 2... that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger called for a review of fire standards applicable to mobile homes after 500 of them burned "like matches" in the Sayre Fire? Cbl62 (talk) 04:40, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the brother of Bulgaria's volleyball team captain Plamen Konstantinov is an opera singer? Self-nom, Todor→Bozhinov 20:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that though communism was created by an atheist, communism and religion have not always had a hostile relationship? new article, self nom Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 15:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team has verbal commitments from four blue chip recruits even though they will be in just their second year off of scholarship probation and are limited in recruiting? --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Hook is 221 characters. —97198 (talk) 08:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, which is in its second year off of scholarship probation and is limited in recruiting, has four blue chip verbal commitments?

• (revised)... that the 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, which is in its second year off of scholarship probation and is limited in recruiting, has four blue chip letter of intent signees?

• ... that the Royal Papua New Guinea Constabulary formerly used Police Motu, a lingua franca pidgin of Motu, as its working language? (selfnom) ++Lar: t/c 06:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the three-way catalytic converter co-invented by Carl D. Keith has been credited by the EPA with reducing nitrogen oxide emissions from cars by 98% since the 1970s? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 06:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Recommendations: This is a great subject. I would try to rewrite it to be more about Carl D. the late Mr. Keith than about the catalytic converter. May I recommend this hook?

• ... that Carl D. Keith co-invented the three-way catalytic converter, with which the EPA has credited reducing nitrogen oxide emissions from cars by 98% since the 1970s? Cheers, – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 07:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Make it a double - *... that Carl D. Keith and John J. Mooney co-invented the three-way catalytic converter, which has cut nitrogen oxide emissions from cars by 98% since the 1970s? -- second article added to hook, new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 17:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that when rival colleague Zhang Yanshang suggested the Tang Dynasty chancellor Liu Hun be more silent, Liu commented that his tongue would not stop even if he were decapitated? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 05:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Arne Sunde, Norwegian politician and Olympic shooter, led an infantry battalion to victory during the Battle of Dombås in the 1940 Norwegian Campaign? expand nom by Manxruler (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Arne Sunde, Norwegian politician, Olympic shooter and WWII veteran, led the UN Security Council meeting that adopted United Nations Security Council Resolution 84 of the Korean War? Manxruler (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Second hook verified. As for the first hook, it's good except that the article itself doesn't mention the victory. Punkmorten (talk) 11:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Y Done. First hook now mentioned fully in article. Manxruler (talk) 12:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The DYK updater may now choose either hook. Punkmorten (talk) 14:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

After rereading the sources I think a more precise nom might be:

ALT2: ... that Arne Sunde, Norwegian politician, Olympian and WWII veteran, led the UNSC meeting that adopted United Nations Security Council Resolution 84 establishing United Nations Command (Korea)? Manxruler (talk) 15:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

or a bit simpler:

ALT3: ... that Arne Sunde, Norwegian politician, Olympian and World War II veteran, was President of the United Nations Security Council at the start of the Korean War? Manxruler (talk) 15:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the white deer of the Seneca Army Depot in Seneca County, New York is the largest herd of white deer in the world? -- new article self-nom by Brian Adler (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wanna crop the pic? The deer are too small. --70.50.203.207 (talk) 04:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Cropped the pic. Brian Adler (talk) 20:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the music video for Sia Furler's (pictured) latest single "Soon We'll Be Found" features American Sign Language? -- new article self-nom by – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 00:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Alternate: ... that, in the music video of Sia Furler's (pictured) most recent single, "Soon We'll Be Found", Sia signs all of the lyrics in American Sign Language while lip synching? – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 01:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• It's an excellent hook, and the article length and refs are good (although there are maybe a few too many refs to Sia's own website; I am working on spreading the other refs around a little). But it could use a brief section on Reception before I accept it (the Fitzmaurice source would be a good starting point for that); stuff like this generally needs a Reception/Review/Criticism/what-have-you section to establish its notability. (The ASL bit also helps with notability, as I'm sure that's pretty unique—just need to find a source saying that.) Personally I am fascinated by ASL and have read a lot of research on it, so I want to be extra-careful not to push this hook through unfairly just because it's a topic that I like. Give me/us a nudge once you've got that extra section added, and I'll be able to verify this. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Further concerns raised at the article talk page and nominator's talk page; article needs more improvement before being passed. Also, I struck out the alt hook because 1) none of the sources I found mention lip syncing in particular; 2) I don't think she herself signs "all" of the lyrics. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Image:Symbol confirmed.svg Article looks much better now. And it's just over 1600 chars even after you removed the stuff I marked as OR. History and length verified, a lot of the SPS have been replaced by more reliable third-party sources, so I'm gonna verify it. Keep working on the article, though, as it's waiting in line. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Oops! TROUT me again. The refs given in the article don't verify that the language being used in the video is ASL. Can't tick this until that is cleared up. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for scratching out the alternate one. I agree, the first is more "pithy" (it's my vocab word, and I'm trying to utilize it. Sorry if it sounds weird or wrong or possibly self-centered.) – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 09:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Y Done. I added the citation, as you may or may not have known. I even added a quote from the website to the citation to further back it up. Cheers, – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 09:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified again. Hopefully I won't get the jitters this time! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 14:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 2009 Michigan Wolverines football team will host at least one team from the Mid-American Conference for the tenth consecutive season?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Can you suggest a different hook? I'm not a football expert but this doesn't seem all that unique to me. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 00:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
    • There are eleven Division I conferences and teams only play four non-conference games a year. This is a bit unusual.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
      • But it doesn't come off as unusual to people who don't know much about football (which is the majority of readers—considering that not all Americans know much about it, and hardly any non-Americans know anything about it). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
        • (alt hook)... that 2009 Michigan Wolverines football team recruit Anthony LaLota is rated among both the top four offensive tackles and top six strong side defensive ends?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
          • That just seems like random numbers to me. Maybe someone else can take a look. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 09:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
            • (alt hook2)... that 2009 Michigan Wolverines football team recruit Anthony LaLota is rated among both the top ten offensive tackles and top ten strong side defensive ends?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
              • That's the exact same kind of hook as the previous one, only with less impressive numbers. So if random number hooks aren't desirable, then this one isn't either. (If random number hooks are fine, then either one of these hooks will do, but I won't be the one to verify it; I think we need a second opinion here before this gets crazy.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 19:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
                • On a side note, if these hooks are accepted by someone, you will still have to add context (ie, the top 10 defensive ends in what? in the country, in the conference, in the division?). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 19:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
                  • (revised alt hook2)... that 2009 Michigan Wolverines football team high school recruit Anthony LaLota is rated among both the top ten offensive tackles and top ten strong side defensive ends in the country?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that djenkolic acid found in South-East Asian food of djenkol bean can cause painful swelling of the genitalia in young children? - new article, self-nom by sentausa (talk) 00:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

All verified, but possibly unsuitable hook for the front page, perhaps you could think of an alternative. — BillC ^talk 01:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that djenkolic acid found in South-East Asian food of djenkol bean can form needle-like crystals in the urine of the